Google Changing the PageRank Algorithm?

If things keep at this pace I might rename this blog to Daily Google Tips. Over the last two weeks we have been talking about Google every other day. This time it is the PageRank buzz again.

Both Problogger and Copyblogger, two of the most popular blogs on the niche, announced that their PR dropped from 6 to 4. Previously other authority blogs confirmed that they lost PR, but the suspect was towards paid links. Given that Problogger and Copyblogger are not selling links, it might be just a readjustment on the PR scale.

Some people are arguing that since the PR drop is not generalized, it must be a slap from Google due to practices that conflict with its guidelines. Andy Beard suggested that the sites that got penalized were either selling links or exchanging them inside large blog networks. This is a feasible explanation given that most of the Weblogs, Inc blogs (Engadget above all) were penalized, and they do not sell paid links either.

Here is a list that I gathered with big blogs that supposedly lost PR on this issue:

Statcounter (from 10 to 6)
Engadget (from 7 to 5)
AutoBlog (from 6 to 4)
Problogger (from 6 to 4)
Copyblogger (from 6 to 4)
AdesBlog (from 7 to 5)
Search Engine Journal (from 7 to 4)
Quick Online Tips (from 6 to 3)
Search Engine Roundtable (from 7 to 4)
Blog Herald (from 6 to 4)
Weblog Tools Collection (from 6 to 4)
JohnTP (from 6 to 4)
Coolest Gadgets (from 5 to 3)
CyberNet News (from 6 to 4)

Update: It looks like mainstream websites that were selling links were also penalized:

Washington Post (from 7 to 5)
Washington Times (from 6 to 4)
Charlotte Observer (from 6 to 4)
Forbes.com (from 7 to 5)
SFGate.com (from 7 to 5)
Sun Times (from 7 to 5)
New Scientist (from 7 to 5)
Seattle Times (from 6 to 4)

Update 2: After reading through the avalanche of posts on the subject, it appears that this is not a PageRank update but rather a distribution of penalties (either automatic or manual). The theory that the penalized blogs were either selling links or part of a network that used a cross-linking strategy seems to hold.

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416 Responses to “Google Changing the PageRank Algorithm?”

Deep on October 24th, 2007 4:00 am

Well, it’s pretty much straight that google wants to lower the value of PR in the mind of people.. basically, people do anything to get high PR and then sell links so fluctuating PR on random basis might lower the value of PR and poeple might start giving more importance to other factors (site visitors etc..) before buying the links / ads.
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 4:01 am

My assumption might not be correct though Deep, I am talking with some friends right now and will update the post soon.
Maris on October 24th, 2007 4:39 am

My blog also dropped from 5 to 3 but I’m pretty happy that traffic remains the same. I removed all my sold links and link exchange partners. Will see if this helps to receive back PR.
Patrick Burt on October 24th, 2007 4:40 am

The PR resources I checked mentioned problogger is still at 6. What resources are you guys using?
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 4:46 am

http://livepr.raketforskning.com/

Some datacenters will still show a 6, but there are many 4’s there, so its changing over time towards the 4.
TipsoSaurus on October 24th, 2007 4:53 am

oh! my god! this is soooo bad. Problogger deserves 10 page rank! I really think that google should stop acting evil and must concentrate on making the things better or rather improving the Pagerank in a way that it doesn’t give too much weight to the paid links…but penalizing like this is not really good.

Although, one thing is sure that these sites now really don’t depend on the traffic from google.

Hey guys..continue selling the links
Darren on October 24th, 2007 4:53 am

Deep - I thought it could be them just lowering the overall value of PR - but how come some blogs are down and some are not?

The text link selling theory doesn’t add up for me - as quite a few blogs that have been hit in the last 24 hours don’t sell them.

The blog network theory could have something to it - although some of the blogs that I’ve seen hit are not in blog networks - or at least are not fully participating in link exchanges - and other blog networks seem untouched despite interlinking (like TechCrunch’s network).

Maris - you’re experience is the same as mine PR is down but traffic is stable from Google. So ultimately for me it doesn’t matter - but it is odd and something I hope Google gives some insight on.
Baris Unver on October 24th, 2007 5:08 am

My blog’s PR stayed as 0, hooray.
Dave on October 24th, 2007 5:12 am

Networking could be the issue - maybe Google have decided that because many networks interlink their sites when they are not related, they are going to penalise them (as if they were a paid-for directory).

I’d love to hear Google actually comment on what they are doing, rather than leaving everyone to guess.
Deep on October 24th, 2007 5:13 am

Darren - I think what could have happened is, they would have picked some xx number of blog, ran a random script which will lower the PR on random basis.. but this PR won’t affect google’s internal PR ranking… this PR is just to show the people and lower the value of PR…

I personally don’t think having a blog network or being part of blog network should affect the PR..I don’t see anything wrong in having a blog network and linking to all their blogs.. this is bit natural that if a person is having xx no. of things then he is going to list all together..

If blog network was the issue then it would have affected google’s own blog too..

for example: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/ links to all of its network blogs and most blogs of that network also links back to google’s official blog as well as other network blog and still their PR is high (e.g. http://buzz.blogger.com/)

So, I think, blog network can’t be the issuse but I still feel it is just random PR lower thing, nothing else..
Andrew Flusche on October 24th, 2007 5:25 am

Google slammed me from 5 down to 3. But now that I’m seeing all these other changes, I don’t feel so bad.

Fortunately, my search traffic has stayed steady.

I’m still going to clean out some paid links and try to be more “valuable” in Google’s eyes.
Jacob Share on October 24th, 2007 5:57 am

My HP went from 4 to 2 and I haven’t a clue why.

I haven’t sold any links on it for over a month, I’ve never done a link exchange and have always been careful to follow the Webmaster Guidelines.

That said, since I don’t actively run after PR, I’ll still sleep tonight but I would still like to know what happened.

As if.
thomas on October 24th, 2007 6:11 am

I went down one rank also. I first thought it had to do with dmoz not giving juice anymore, but it seems to be something else.
Paula Neal Mooney on October 24th, 2007 6:14 am

JohnChow.com is a PR 4, down from a PR 5 when I wrote this post:

PAULA NEAL MOONEY: PageRank Dropped from 5 to 4 … Thank God it didn’t drop to zero!

PaulaNealMooney.com dropped from 5 to 4 to now a 3 — but they also penalized me so I don’t rank for “Paula Mooney” nor “blogger salaries” nor other stuff anymore.

Sucks, but I’m glad I’m focused on my other websites — which I hope get a PR soon…

Great post again, Daniel.
Stephen on October 24th, 2007 6:19 am

As a resident voice on SEO, I can’t help but weigh in on this one.

My working theory isn’t that all of these sites have necessarily been penalized, especially considering many of them are doing nothing wrong. Rather, I believe that the sites linking to them have been largely devalued.

Consider this: The primary audience for many of these sites are bloggers. These sites derive their popularity from others who are quite likely being penalized. Now that the algorithm has been changed and all those links have lost their juice, the popular blogging niche sites are losing PageRank as a byproduct. It’s regrettable, but largely unavoidable.

I’ll keep everyone apprised if I come across a better explanation, but that’s the best I’ve got for now. Honestly, it’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but this is why it’s never advisable to put all your eggs into the Google basket.
Jerry on October 24th, 2007 6:29 am

Its really sad to know that all the hardwork can be taken away by the “all mighty google” .The just wanna show how powerful n controlling the can be. Mine is has a PR 0 and am still alive and kicking!Don’t lose your sleep..
Easton Ellsworth on October 24th, 2007 6:36 am

Know More Media has about 100 interlinking blogs and our PageRanks appear not to have changed - nearly all 6’s across the board for the blogs’ home pages.
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 6:42 am

Easton, yeah I checked you guys and it was fine. Gawker media, Crunch Network and GigaOM seem to be fine as well.
JoeTech.com on October 24th, 2007 6:54 am

Wow… Some of those sites took a big hit. What really matters is the fact that these sites will undoubtedly lose a lot of search engine traffic. I’m just glad I’m still holding my PR5.
Vincent Chow on October 24th, 2007 7:19 am

Now I don’t feel as bad for my PageRank drop from 5 to 4.
Karthik on October 24th, 2007 7:35 am

I don’t think any of you would complain if you heard of Google’s woes. Google doesn’t rank for “search engine” on google.com! How about that for being ironic?
Daniel Harrison on October 24th, 2007 7:36 am

I noticed my Spy Gadget Blog dropped PR5 to PR3. My directories have dropped 2 points too.
Daniel Harrison on October 24th, 2007 7:38 am

Just wondering, it might be due to the quality of directory and blog links being downgraded, and therefore sites with PR based on those have been hit.
Technobuzz.net on October 24th, 2007 7:41 am

oh! my god! thats so bad.
Court on October 24th, 2007 7:48 am

I have now been hit with a -2 and I’m not selling links and I’m not part of a blog network. Is it possible that Google is going to hit all blogs? If so I think it’s very odd and stupid. If not, there isn’t any reason to penalize my site.
Ashish Mohta on October 24th, 2007 8:12 am

I have small guess, Not sure but possibly

Google can find when you were linked and In how much time for a particular article…If they find high amount of linking all of a sudden. They can go for manual check

If you made a good story and true find…its not considered as positive linking. But if you did by giving money or creating useless competition that can create a problem

I know one thing for sure that Google have both auto and manual check. They should be having some script to find sudden linking and then find exact nature with manual.

Do correct me If I am wrong.
Cigar Jack on October 24th, 2007 8:22 am

I got hit and dropped from a 4 to a 2.
Venomous Kate on October 24th, 2007 8:39 am

My PR5 blog went down to a 3 overnight. My PR4 blog went to a 3 last week and is now down to a 2.

Granted, since I do sponsored reviews I expected a little bit of a drop but nothing like this.

If Google are doing this to protect their Adsense revenues from competitors like TLA, then I think it’s safe to say Google has repositioned from being a search engine to being more of a corporate sponsor.

As for me, I just sold off my Google shares. No, I don’t think it’s going to hurt them, but it felt better than slamming my head against my keyboard all morning. Made a nifty little profit, too.

I’m going shopping.
Keith Dsouza on October 24th, 2007 8:45 am

It really should not affect most of the SERP’s but Google or atleast Matt Cutts should make an annoucment on what the hell is going on.
Geekissimo on October 24th, 2007 8:54 am

too in italy…

my geeks blog http://www.geekissimo.com from 5 to 3…..
Egon on October 24th, 2007 9:17 am

Yeah, AutomoBlog.net went from PR5 to PR3. I wonder how this is going to affect advertisers. Come on Google, let us know what’s going on.
Sarat Chandran on October 24th, 2007 9:32 am

Wow…with all the dropping PRs, my blog still remains at PR5. The sad thing is, I don’t post there now. It has not been updated for *nearly* a month now.
Chris Jacobson on October 24th, 2007 9:35 am

That’s very harsh! I’m still at a PR1. Hopefully I don’t get a 0!
valerie on October 24th, 2007 10:01 am

ALL of my sites have dropped, even those that don’t sell links. My main one, though, went from a 6 to now I see today a 3. I don’t know much about SEO and so I’m at a loss. I assumed it was because of sold links but some friends are still hanging at 7 though they also do the paid link thing. I don’t get it…
Caribbean Web Development on October 24th, 2007 10:02 am

any word on new sites getting a pagerank for the first time?
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 10:14 am

I am waiting for some PR gain on http://www.dailywritingtips.com as well, but so far it looks like on the down balls have been distributed .
Thilak on October 24th, 2007 10:15 am

Mine was dropped from 6 to 4, but I really think Google should come up with a better, fool-proof strategy to eliminate the whole text ads thing.

Maybe, pulling down the whole pagerank thing (or atleast hiding it from public should do the job), but then they could also come up with something like a tool through which webmasters can report paid links on their pages.

This way, Google can penalize advertisers instead of penalizing poor publishers.
Andrew on October 24th, 2007 10:17 am

google.. piece of shit
bradman1965 on October 24th, 2007 11:24 am

PR is outbound juice, inbound Google traffic should not be effected.
Sarah on October 24th, 2007 12:05 pm

I’m not a big blog, but I dropped from a 3 to a 1, and have jumped to a 6, depending on when I check. I’ve given up on checking my google score, and have basically said screw it with them.
Clint on October 24th, 2007 12:27 pm

Actually, if you look at it, it doesn’t seem like any sites are above 5. Maybe 5 is the new maximum.
Napolux on October 24th, 2007 12:30 pm

Many italian blogs are also affected:

Napolux.com from 5 to 3
Pandemia.info from 6 to 4
Sw4n.net from 6 to 4
MasterNewMedia.org from 7 to 4
Jake on October 24th, 2007 12:32 pm

MoreMerchant.com stayed at a 4. I was hoping for a 5, but after all that happened a 4 is now like the old 6.

We have to now rethink about pagerank. It will take time, but the 3 is now a 5 and the 4 is a 6. Easy as that. No worried.

If they change it again… we will adapt again.
Jonk : Bargains on October 24th, 2007 12:44 pm

A couple of thoughts in my mind

.) Google is changing the scale. IE. PR 5 will soon be considered a lot more valuable than it has been.

.) They’re doing some algo tinkering

.) They’re decreasing the link quality of blogs overall, so those relying on that have been hit. Although CourtneyTuttle.com down to #1 is just ridiculous.
tish grier on October 24th, 2007 1:01 pm

I’ve been utterly fascinated by the whole thing! My rank went from 5 to 4, and now it’s back up to 5…go figure…..

and traffic hasn’t changed considerably….

One thing I noticed though has been the number of blog networks that have been liking exclusively to the others in the network as well as to blog posts within the same blog. This has definitely given some blog network blogs inflated page rank…essentially, they’re not really as important as they (literally) made themselves out to be…

but if you think of it another way–this is all supposed to be “social media” correct? then it’s really kind of anti-social (and alot like old media) when blog networks only link to those in their network. Maybe that’s why both the networks and the msm newspaper blogs took big hits.
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 1:03 pm

You guys should keep in mind that traffic will not change overnight as the PR does. PR that appears on the sidebar is just nominal, and it refers to real ranks coming from 2 months or so ago.
Liza on October 24th, 2007 1:14 pm

Another notable website you might want to add to your list, Dan, is adesblog.com that used to be PR7 and some datacenters show its dropping to PR5.
What’s sad is, some blogs (and I know of one personally) that are PR7 and openly sell dozens of links yet were not penalized.
Mark on October 24th, 2007 1:29 pm

I don’t particularly care about those who lost a PR or two. Who cares since everyone lost?

More importantly, who went up? That’s what I would like to know and how did they go up?
Mike Panic on October 24th, 2007 1:45 pm

Mine has remained PR4
News-rogue on October 24th, 2007 2:02 pm

My website still has 0 pagerank. I suck.
Edward on October 24th, 2007 2:04 pm

All my websites have 0 p. rank. I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 2:34 pm

Only downgrades have been reported so far, that is why it might not be a PR update in the standard sense of the term.
Armen on October 24th, 2007 3:54 pm

How about this Daniel…with the boom in blogs, and all the linking increase, maybe Google are making the bar to reach certain levels of PageRank, higher? Maybe it’s just a matter of time before all PR’s go down, and that will then level out the competition.
That might help with understanding why the actual SERP’s haven’t really changed.
Daniel on October 24th, 2007 4:14 pm

Armen, I raised that hypothesis on the post in fact.

It could be, but it should not take that much time for most of the sites to start showing a PR change.

As the time passes I am more skeptical about that option.
Armen on October 24th, 2007 4:41 pm

Sorry Daniel, I missed that little “it might be just a readjustment on the PR scale” phrase.

It definately is interesting. I would say that we’re better just to sit tight, and wait till more is revealed, however, you’ve just landed yourself a serious piece of ‘linkbait’ here by writing about it
John on October 24th, 2007 6:16 pm

It’s funny how Matt’s buddy Mr. Wolf did not get hit even thought he has a text-link-ads ad on his front page. I think google is out of control with this. They need to stop hounding sites which people REALLY READ like this, andy wash post etc. And start worring about the 1000’s of scraper adsense pages that fill up the google blog serps, and other directories.

Just my opinion thought. I wish a boycott of google would do any good. But prob not. They are officially the 300lb gorilla now.
Jason Bartholme on October 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

My SEO blog, http://www.jasonbartholme.com went from a PR5 to PR3. Sucks.
Rusty on October 24th, 2007 7:14 pm

Maybe its time for a new boss. Let the people speak.
Jeffrey Henderson on October 24th, 2007 7:41 pm

No problems here, still a 7.
Cecilia on October 24th, 2007 7:51 pm

Interesting reading…I’m glad I haven’t started my blog yet. Being a slow learner sometimes pays off, I guess. I have no worries with PR…oh, yes! I do…I don’t even know where to find that magic #. I should probably check if my empty blog space’s title has been ranked. Wouldn’t that be hilarious?

Procrastination bug, or is it the gutless bug? That is what sucks…not the PR 1, not even PR 0!
Sridhar Katakam on October 24th, 2007 8:35 pm

Mine went down from 5 to 3.
mark on October 24th, 2007 9:08 pm

Ouch. From a 7 to a 4?!?! Wow. I’m shocked at that big drop.
Suray on October 24th, 2007 9:28 pm

I think Google has edited the PageRank scores of several sites in manually. I was so curious, Google didn’t update the PageRank of all sites in 3 or 4 months. It’s being 5 months, Google has late, if Google implementing new algorithm, I think that all webmasters and SEO will use more powerful and significant strategies to sneakily cheat the Google crawler. Unless, if Google is using human-edited way. I have written about this at http://surayblog.blogspot.com/.....tober.html
Clement on October 24th, 2007 11:15 pm

Hey guys

Why do yoiu get concerned about this PR issue?It is just a number. Concentrate on writing great posts on your blog.Google friendly blogs (those with high PR) will link to them.Google will end up bringing you traffic through tthem.
Phill Midwinter on October 25th, 2007 12:07 am

I’m a search engine engineer and I’m going to give you some free advice: Ignore PageRank.

It hasn’t been used for a long time and they change it now and again to make those who know little about how the algorithms and weightings of various web pages work have kittens now and again.

All it is these days is a useful little tool to keep people in suspense. Just ignore it.
Robert MacEwan on October 25th, 2007 12:42 am

My site has dropped from PR6 to PR5, but suspect this is due to my switch from Ubuntu Linux content to discussioning my mother-in-law purposefully losing my socks which handling laundry & other family related posts.
Antonio on October 25th, 2007 1:39 am

In spanish too:

http://www.error500.net

Pagerank 6 -> Pagerank 3
Flanture on October 25th, 2007 3:16 am

My blog has also suffered and it was downgraded from PR5 to PR3.
emigre on October 25th, 2007 3:23 am

If the update is over, I didn’t see any change in my PRs. I hope it is.

Another big blog to be hit with a double whammy is Entrepreneurs Journey. From 6 to 5 and now it’s a 4.
AdesBlog went from a 7 straight to 5.
Daniel on October 25th, 2007 3:35 am

emigre, I am not sure if this was a proper update or just a manual adjustment for the mentioned blogs. If it was an update than all other blogs still got see some PR change.
toxa931 on October 25th, 2007 3:45 am

HA-HA
Eklavya on October 25th, 2007 4:07 am

Here is a confirmation from Google itself, I just found on webmasterworld. (http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3472449.htm)

“Danny Sullivan wrote a very informative post yesterday about the selective PR rollback some sites experienced last week, and makes some astonishing claims -

So I pinged Google, and they confirmed that PageRank scores are being lowered for some sites that sell links

and

In addition, Google said that some sites that are selling links may indeed end up being dropped from its search engine or have penalties attached to prevent them from ranking well

and

Google stressed, by the way, that the current set of PageRank decreases is not assigned completely automatically; the majority of these decreases happened after a human review. ”

As you can see, it’ not an automatic update. It has been done after a human review. One edu site (http://daily.stanford.edu/) which used to sell has also been down from PR 9 to PR 7. This may also be an interesting read :

http://searchengineland.com/071007-173841.php
SeoReef on October 25th, 2007 11:10 am

I don’t think it was a Google PR update. To me it looks like it was hand edited penalties.
Japanese SEO - 海外SEO on October 25th, 2007 11:27 am

Very surprised at the big change.
Thank you for the fast info.
Tim Boucher on October 25th, 2007 2:44 pm

I’ve emailed Patrick Gavin, CEO of Text-Link-Ads about this, who I did some consulting for back when they first started out. Curious to see what their public response will be.

Seems like a humongous bonehead move on the part of Google; they’re only creating reasons for influential tech sites not to use their services anymore. This is the kind of thing I’m willing to drop everything I have with them over.
Michael Hampton on October 25th, 2007 3:50 pm

My site also dropped from PR6 to PR4, though I’ve seen only about a 5% drop in traffic over the last month.

Interestingly, I sort of knew something like this was coming since my AdSense revenues have been down almost 50% over the last month. Fortunately it is not my sole source of income.
Albert on October 25th, 2007 10:20 pm

Well, they dropped mine from PR7 to PR4. I have checked with Text Link Ads and of course they say this is not going to affect their/our business.

Has anyone noticed a change after removing their paid links?
Different Story here... on October 26th, 2007 1:13 am

I have stayed the same….

But, incoming links have increased and traffic is steady…
Anand on October 26th, 2007 5:40 am

Any idea on the total number of websites that lost their PR?
Daniel on October 26th, 2007 5:50 am

I would say that a hundred of them at least. I saw a lot of small bloggers complaining as well.
house on October 26th, 2007 10:11 am

How is it possible that an index page has disappeared from Google result after being on the first page for 1 year?
Wiadomości on October 26th, 2007 11:55 am

One of my old domain dropped pagerank form 5 to 3 too
Tim Boucher on October 26th, 2007 12:18 pm

Is Google addressing this publicly yet?
Daniel on October 26th, 2007 3:34 pm

Tim, not yet.
Motoma on October 26th, 2007 7:37 pm

Google: “You probably already know about Amazon, Engadget, Ebay, CNet, 4Chan, Wikipedia, and Jesusishitler.com; so we are going to give you results that you may not have known about, but that are equally as relevant.”
Internet Marketing Blueprints on October 26th, 2007 10:30 pm

Woohoo! Google has finally rewarded my humble little PR 0 website a ranking update. My site has gone from 0 to 3.

Well, eat your heart out to those who lost your ranking. Mine got a thumbs up from Big G!

If you are down on the PR 0 ranking…..the only way to go is UP!

Link safely.

Mohd Nizam
http://www.myinternetmarketingblueprints.com
Daniel on October 27th, 2007 12:55 am

It looks like its a real update now, with sites actually gaining PR.
Okinawa on October 27th, 2007 2:24 am

Wow, this madness has been the buzz of like every forum I visit!
Rogers on October 27th, 2007 2:54 am

This all suggest that Google don’t want to remove page rank from toolbar as G fear that most of webmasters will then uninstall their toolbar

But at the same time G want to convey that PR is no that important as it used to be earlier… This si to prevent link selling business…
none on October 27th, 2007 8:32 am

youtube.com PR > 3
Tim Boucher on October 27th, 2007 1:56 pm

Ironically, on one of the sites offering a PR calculator tool, there is an AdSense ad for Text-Link-Ads!
Marcus on October 27th, 2007 2:22 pm

Holy s… One of My website suddenly drop from 5 to 2, have only Google ad sense ads, no link selling or buying, no text ads…
It has quality content, many visitors and instead of increase from PR5 -
and got PR2?
CableGuy on October 27th, 2007 4:07 pm

youtoube.com = PR3? What’s going on out there?
89 video izle on October 27th, 2007 4:09 pm

Wow, this madness has been the buzz of like every forum I visit!
http://www.89videoizle.com
Site Ekle on October 27th, 2007 4:11 pm

hmmm realy youtube pr 3 :S
Video youtube on October 27th, 2007 4:12 pm

google.com.tr = pr 7
omg..
Elizabeth on October 27th, 2007 5:14 pm

My two year old blog Table for Five went from PR4 to PR3. But, my six month old blog MomReviews went UP from PR0 to PR2, and my five month old blog MomCooks also went up from PR0 to PR2. I always thought that the age of the blog was one of the determining factors.

The only explanation I can think of is that I sell Text Link Ads and LinkWorth ads on Table for Five. MomReviews has one multi-rotating ad running, and one affilliate ad. MomCooks has BlogHer Ads, Auction Ads, and Adsense. But, I’ve only written 42 posts on it! And yet it’s only one rank step away from a two year old blog with probably close to a thousand posts? It makes no sense.
chipseo on October 28th, 2007 7:08 pm

There was so much talk about this I wasn’t going to post anything on my blog about it, until I found out mine went from a PR0 to a PR2.

Up two is not bad considering so many lost PR’s, but then again, I couldn’t have gone below a PR0 anyway.
Eric Stoller on October 28th, 2007 7:11 pm

This has been the highest traffic month for my site. I checked my Google PageRank and it went from “5″ to “1″!!! I still have sections of my site with PR’s of 2, 3, and 4. One of my client sites went from “0″ to “5″.

I am really confused. In the end I just hope this does not affect my SERPs…
XMCP on October 29th, 2007 9:12 am

Hey,
Good article. I hope you don’t mind, but I borrowed your list of affected sites for my explanation of the pagerank changes. I did give a backlink though, but god knows, that might be dangerous nowadays
-XMCP
PS: If you feel like taking a look, the article is over at http://www.slightlyshadyseo.com/?p=36 , I’d be glad to know what you think.
Marvin on October 29th, 2007 5:23 pm

Does G re-scaling the keywords also Im busted all of my keywords dropped!
Dave Sprint on October 29th, 2007 9:51 pm

every one have seen changed in their web page’s PR updates but majority have seen their web sites PR get down , stable, higher is for few one.

my web directory is also get from 6 to 3 PR

http://www.search4i.com

PR is updated just reently
Mervt on October 30th, 2007 6:46 am

I just finished a brand new site and it now has a pr4 rating overnight.
Rick Wezenaar on October 30th, 2007 2:58 pm

People, Randy, then I have _some_ ‘news’ for you,

Somehow, and I really don’t know why, my site dropped from a pr4 to pr0.

No, I don’t sell links or whatever. I am sometimes busy on blogcatalog and technorati and mybloglog, etc.etc. to link up with people who are in my specific line of work (photography). I also have a lot of ‘fans’ who are linking to me, and yes, most of them get a link back from me. I think in the last week I added about 10 new links on my site, where it was quiet a few weeks before that because I was on a holiday for quite some time (Indonesia, see my blog for photos). My technorati rank rose from 18 to 34 in the last couple of days, probably because of all the new links pointing to my articles. Seems people like my work.

But somehow the people from Google don’t like my photography. I recently applied for adsense on my page. didn’t have anything at the time. I got a nasty mail back that my blog was’nt worth their while and was rejected from adsense (and no, I don’t do porn stuff, just landscapes, culture, and people :P)

Immediately after that mail my pagerank dropped from pr4 to pr0. I am not sure whether it had to do with my application for adsense and their rejection, but I think it is rather suspicious, even if they were ‘updating’…

penalty ? for what ? because I have beautiful photography on my site (which is my own work, so it isn’t any copyright violation [mental note: write lawyer to sue myself], or because I have added too many links in a week’s time ? (and others to me for that fact…)

Well, so sorry people from Google, that I am an enthousiastic blogger.

I use google regularly (and I think almost everybody does) to look up things on their search engine. However, now that they are clearly so biased in their attitude towards bloggers or enthousiasts, I am now searching for competing alternatives. There are not many, unfortunately.

Rick Wezenaar
photographer

ps. Next to my photography I am also an experienced UNIX Consultant. I recently got an invitation to work with google, because my skillset matched with one of their positions. I am not sorry I didn’t accept the offer…
Andy on October 30th, 2007 10:17 pm

Its interesting topic about the google PR slap. I have noticed PR increase in many of the sites I own while reading others have PR drop.
Preston on October 31st, 2007 12:45 pm

At http://www.bamabots.com we saw no impact to our PR rank but a lot of our competitors did. Most of them do not have any paid links, but we appear to still be a very solid 5. However, we dropped in the serps while the others improved? Which makes no sense. I’m not really sure what Google has changed, but it goes beyond just paid links.
Rob Lawrence on November 1st, 2007 9:42 pm

My site http://www.battlecall.com has had a very consistently high pagerank, it moves from 6 to 4 and sometimes 5, so I don’t know what’s up with Google.
Dave on November 4th, 2007 10:56 am

I don’t worry about Google. Google is not the law and its policies and vagaries are virtually ignored by the media and by every established corporation and every big advertising agency in the world. Except among bloggers and SEO parasites, Google’s webmaster policies are never news.

The online world of Google is an unhealthy environment. I’d rather be hiking.
Dale Hay on November 5th, 2007 1:14 pm

Ok, so if we get kicked in the balls because we are buying and selling links, but not for having advert banners on our site, how on earth are we suppose to get in/on search engines??
Website Optimization Services - Frederrick Abrugart on November 6th, 2007 9:03 am

The recent page rank drop can be seen as both a disaster and oppotunity.

Disaster for those that experience the page rank drop while opportunity for SEO firms offering website optimization services.

Instead of looking back and frowning about what might happen next, I think the best step to take is to further improve on your back links and further optimize your web page.
Tusserte on November 6th, 2007 2:43 pm

My site, ultimate-reviews.net, dropped from PR6 to PR4 as well. I have never participated in link exchanges and am very confused as to why I was hit so hard.
Tanuj on November 7th, 2007 6:09 am

I think people should not sell/buy links.
What about those who cant afford??
Tomson on November 7th, 2007 6:44 am

This is ridiculous. Main site of the domain dropped from pr3 to pr0 (no link exchange or selling, static text), but the subpages containing we directory (no link exchange or selling) raised from pr2 to pr3. Crap content over normal text? Is this really an update or just a mistake?
msmyla on November 14th, 2007 3:40 am

Tomson, we all wish it was a mistake. When are they updating again?
The Mommy Blogger on November 14th, 2007 6:57 pm

Are they updating again? What about your side bars - do you get penalized for having links back to archived posts…posts that you have made already?
Andrew Ooi on November 14th, 2007 9:32 pm

Yes they are updating again.

My website just went from a PR 4->PR 2

Today (just now) it went from PR2->PR0.

Life is hard..
George Tomas on November 15th, 2007 2:04 am

Thanks for visiting averyone!
Hummerbie on November 18th, 2007 1:11 am

Looks like Statcounter has got their PR 10 back, they have put a NoFollow tag on their textlinks in the “Recommend” Menu item.

After that they probably requested a reconsideration request to Google like Joost de Valk did:
http://www.joostdevalk.nl/i-re.....rank-back/
FatCat on November 21st, 2007 6:06 pm

It seems like the battle-field is changing constantly get the idea of this post - [www].fatalic.com/page-rank-panic-trust-your-eyes/
odchoi on December 5th, 2007 4:27 am

I thought pr ranks doesn’t matter as long as you write your blogs and make research out of it. I was wrong. They were asking for prs. Link with me please.
Medvedev on December 20th, 2007 7:22 am

PR is not relevant at all.
Why do people worry about PR still?
Relevance is all important so SEO guys are making money for old rope.
George Tomas on December 22nd, 2007 10:26 am

Page rank has all the hype these days out in the web-world. It seems that we’ve relied upon Goggle for so long to tell us where we stand with our peers that we’re unable to divorce ourselves from the Googlemonster now that we’re unhappy with the way it’s treating us. It’s all the buzz on blogs across the web all because Google redid the algorithm by which PR is determined and a lot of “important” sites lost rank.
Manuel Gallego on December 23rd, 2007 4:14 pm

Google is not identifing correctly selling sites…

i never sold a link from my site ucables.com, but this summer i put a link to my new girlffriend website about real estate: ibizaloft.com to help her to get some traffic and from october i lost my pagerank from 5 to 0.
i have send some messages to google to reconsider my site, but i have not received any response after 2 months. My traffic decreased 20% and continue decreasing. I have removed this link already from my site.
I think google should try at least to contact with owner before to do this type of action.
Why not decrease rank of payed links from adsense too?
Some years ago, when google was created we love google because, all service that offers was free, and contributed to the original internet spirit to share all, with easy and simple way.
Actually google seems to be corrupted and bad directed for the money.
Sorry my bad english i hope you can understand me.

Happy Xmas!
Dizi on December 27th, 2007 7:23 am

Google must not stop link selling

Because google must think webmasters
Stan on January 1st, 2008 1:48 pm

I thought your readers may want to check their website’s google rank.

I use:

http://www.urlpagerank.com
Moe Green on January 6th, 2008 12:03 am

The thing is… I am now having trouble finding stuff or it is taking me longer when using Google. Sites that used to rank for their domain name are no longer showing up if you use spaces in between words in the domain name when searching.. If I am searching for something named “the white cat” and there is a website at thewhitecat.com, it should show up with minimal effort from the webmaster.

It may be time to start using Yahoo or some other search engine as my starting points..
SLY on January 12th, 2008 8:52 am

I’m not selling links, but i have a PR3 now, from PR5.
Why?
leslie on January 12th, 2008 10:50 pm

I’m really disappointed that my PR dropped from 2 to 0. I know it’s a relatively new blog, but I just don’t know why Google wouldn’t want people to earn from their blogs.
TEENAGER on January 22nd, 2008 4:50 pm

my site pr 0
SeoTrader on January 23rd, 2008 7:03 am

I have just added new tool to check all Google DataCenters for PageRank
Khayte on January 26th, 2008 11:33 pm

Gawd, mine had gone to N/A too, I hate the fact that they have to reduce our PR’s just because we monetize our blogs. What’s the catch anyway? They do the same thing, too I guess on their ‘other’ websites perhaps. Damnn, it makes me go all crazy
Deepak jadav on January 29th, 2008 3:10 am

Please I want to nice tips for my seo blog .

This is my blog

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Thanks
dizi izle on February 2nd, 2008 9:04 am

thanks
Wilson Alva on February 4th, 2008 9:45 am

Algorithm of Page Rank already is discontinued

Many of the services of Google also need urgent update, is why Google prefers to buy to other companies of Internet.

That small finder that began many years ago very good, because only era of text, very fast and efficient, that antigüo AltaVista moved my, nowadays became a Giant.

But that has happened with the progress of his so promoted PageRank? By the sight it has not evolved in the same way, as much money and they have not managed to optimize it.

In summary the PageRank de Google or PR simply is a numerical value that it represents the importance that a page Web has in Internet, this value is obtained through the bonds that make other pages Web to your site. (it is a summary of the great roll of his operation) the PR has been that has not evolved as it would wish the user it, many webmasters astute position their Web in the first results search of Google and when we make a search as simple as the task of your primary son of the first results that we obtain is companies doing publicity to their products/services and nor to speak of the swindles that abound by Internet.

What happened with the quality of content? , What happened with the Google that invented an algorithm to benefit the searches from the users? Simply it turned towards the money of the publicity and grew like great company forgetting its roots.

As much it forgot its past that now cannot produce some own project, I buy to YouTube because GoogleVideos did not do competition to him.

Purchase technology of other projects Web because although it is certain that it sees future in them, same Google does not have it developed.

It must have given Google account of its own weakness that now has a Laboratory as they call to him for own projects. But and what has of their essence? To as much to arrived the weakness from the PageRank that now Google penalizes to the sites of high PR that sells links, or the case of the page of a well-known Alemana company that was penalized by unsuitable practices of positioning Web. Acting as Goliat is giving bad reputation him to Google.

To many webmasters is to them beneficial to work with Adsense, but victims of a repression feel, to the being directed by norms imposed by the greatest finder of history.

Now we asked ourselves, Who is making its work bad? Webmasters or the PageRank de Google? Although it is certain that webmasters are many bad, also are many more if they are good, that they include/understand that to give content of quality to the users it is more important that to fill to its pages Web of words that position them in the finders.

What is failing in the PageRank? As lack would claim to my grandmother… him to it to be more human, he is incredible that the heart of the finder, does not have the greater budget of investigation and development.

Hay Competition at this moment? Lamentably next as Yahoo and MSN do not approach which the user wishes and for that reason the Monopoly of Google almost is guaranteed.

Inevitably the users little by little could emigrate to another finder, as flock of doves, if this were more cash in the searches, but at the moment Google does not have competition, although personally I have seen some other finders with very interesting characteristics.

They already say: It does not have bad lasts one hundred years, nor body that resists it and in Internet the years are months…
dizi izle on February 8th, 2008 1:27 pm

A couple of thoughts in my mind

.) Google is changing the scale. IE. PR 5 will soon be considered a lot more valuable than it has been.
Dhiraj Rawat on February 14th, 2008 1:14 am

It is clear that PR updation is necessory becoz it is requirement of better search results….some guys buy paid links and listing becoz of that relevant results hampered.. Indian Exporters Manufacturers Directory http://www.trademart.in/
Firmalar on February 17th, 2008 12:51 pm

I got hit and dropped from a 5 to a 2.
My on February 22nd, 2008 2:04 am

my PR3 has just dropped to PR0 ! I am really sad. Hopefully it will goes back up in no time.
Rizki on February 24th, 2008 5:28 am

ohh….i’m newbie,,, I don’t have a page rank yet,, please give me advice…
Swanie on February 24th, 2008 6:02 am

It hit me a lot too. My PR is now 0 and a lot of links don’t show up in Google search too. Damn!!
puneet on February 29th, 2008 10:37 am

This is pure rubbish and shows the highhandedness of Google. If Google can sell advertising why cant we sell links for money. Google is doing exactly what Microsoft did. Just that no anti-trust is against them.
youtube download on February 29th, 2008 6:37 pm

I think people should not sell/buy links.
What about those who cant afford??
Pinoy Money Talk on March 2nd, 2008 11:00 pm

is there a new page rank update? my blog’s PR dropped..
gareng on March 3rd, 2008 10:12 pm

my PR drop from 5 to 4 last week.
Today it got a free fall from 4 to 0

sad…..:(
Jamie on March 4th, 2008 5:30 pm

My PR has dropped from 5 or 4 to 0 over the past few months.
However, my SERPS has improved dramatically..

I have text link ads on site, and added a page to advertise on my site - do you think that this could have any effect…?
London Photographer on March 5th, 2008 1:54 am

What is Google doing with its PageRank? My site has just been dropped from PR2 to PR1.
Ryan on March 5th, 2008 6:53 pm

Wowza… it seems Google is really coming down hard on some blogs… and no one can seem to figure out exactly how that algorithim works anyhow … =( But I guess that’s how Google dominates right?
Mastahh on March 11th, 2008 9:59 am

yeah,my website`s PR is goind down.From PR6 to PR4 .
Flora on March 13th, 2008 4:01 am

Hi,

My PR went from 4 to 2, but i did’t do any paid links.
youtube on March 16th, 2008 4:25 am

thanks you
enfopedia on March 16th, 2008 2:09 pm

What can a new site expect to receive from Google in Terms of Ranks, ex: PR 3, PR4..etc

Any comments would be great.
seoreef on March 17th, 2008 10:12 am

The differences are just variations caused by the update itself.
julia on March 18th, 2008 3:58 am

As i know of page rank algorithm It is based on some factors, but in short we can say good website contnt wise and layout wise may have good PR I made my website Holidays In India - http://www.myfirstholiday.com/ from good content and layout as i got one (1) PR only in 2 month
Sharlin Kaur on March 19th, 2008 1:54 am

I recenty lanuched my website and it’s showing 0/10 so I am waiting for google to update his rank so i will able to see where am i
youtube on March 22nd, 2008 11:32 am

I think people should not sell/buy links
mehmet on March 22nd, 2008 2:05 pm

thanks you
youtube on March 23rd, 2008 9:01 am

Here we go again next
dizi izle on March 23rd, 2008 9:02 am

thanksss
Paul Dumas on March 25th, 2008 7:33 pm

do you suppose the folks at Google sit in their cubes all day reading these things and just laugh because we’re all looking for the Ark of the Convenant in the wrong pyramid?
janny on March 27th, 2008 11:13 pm

I have been reading your blog last couple of weeks and enjoy every bit. Thanks.
Film izle, Bedava Film , Online Film izle , Dizi izle , Sinema izle on March 28th, 2008 5:26 pm

thanks

Film izle, Bedava Film , Online Film izle , Dizi izle , Sinema izle
http://www.filmizle.net
Film izle on March 28th, 2008 5:26 pm

thanks
Indonesia Today on March 29th, 2008 7:26 pm

Big frustation indeed. People start to get bored and begin to concentrate on other measurement like Alexa etc.
Mateescu C on March 31st, 2008 1:34 am

How can we increase our page rank from pr4 to a superior page rank ?

Are the relevant backlinks the main element in order to achieve a better page rank ?

Thank you
Mateescu C on March 31st, 2008 1:40 am

How can we increase out page rank ?

Are the relevant backlinks the only elements that matters ?

Thank you
Youtube download on March 31st, 2008 3:26 am

I have now been hit with a -2 and I’m not selling links and I’m not part of a blog network. Is it possible that Google is going to hit all blogs? If so I think it’s very odd and stupid. If not, there isn’t any reason to penalize my site
Wim on April 3rd, 2008 11:48 am

My PR went from 5 to 4 and the home page is not a blog….
But I do exchange links….
Link Building on April 3rd, 2008 4:09 pm

Thanks for valuable information about sell and buy links
trademark registration on April 6th, 2008 3:16 am

Does PageRank matter anymore? It doesn’t seem to affect rankings. At least, not in my experience…
Grinding Teeth on April 8th, 2008 11:35 am

I wish I understood what I need to do to be smiled upon by Google. There is so much confusing info out there that I am not sure anyone knows exactly how to get on Google’s good side.
divx on April 9th, 2008 8:31 am

thans
Amithy on April 11th, 2008 10:57 am

Google is not the law and its policies and vagaries are virtually ignored by the media and by every established corporation and every big advertising agency in the world.
For all mobile phones deals log on to http://www.thatzcool.co.uk
Gadgets and gizmos on April 13th, 2008 4:48 pm

I am certain pagerank is not as important as it once was, what is important is ranking. I would much rather have a high ranking than high pagerank any day.
sunty singh on April 17th, 2008 1:54 am

well I was reading an article posted by someone its about PR 0 here is the link http://fullorissa.com/forum/fo.....p?TID=2769

well is that observation correct? I mean abt zero PR??? or thats just an observation which is of no use?

could someone reply to this?
Rani Dababneh on April 17th, 2008 7:13 am

nice.. thanx
check out my article about Google Page Rank Update - the PR Mysterious Excitement!
izmir evden eve on April 17th, 2008 11:58 am

Google must not stop link selling

Because google must think webmasters
shane on April 18th, 2008 5:28 am

Which time update google Page Rank
shane on April 18th, 2008 5:29 am

which time update google Page Rank http://webmasterworld01.blogspot.com/
Web Promotion on April 18th, 2008 5:41 am

How many good back links gain Page Rank
tarim makineleri on April 19th, 2008 5:22 am

tenks
Jay on April 19th, 2008 5:35 pm

Good explaination,

But found that these most of these sites yet contain same page rank.

Jay,
Discussion Forums Open Source
Radiat Floor Heat on April 20th, 2008 9:28 pm

Wish I knew more about how Google does things. Its a big mystery to see you sites jump all around in the search engines and go up and down with the PR
online film izle on April 21st, 2008 11:14 am

How can we increase out page rank ?
Geo on April 21st, 2008 12:03 pm

One of my websites have PR4 from two years and don’t grow
dizi izlet on April 21st, 2008 4:34 pm

thanks
Alistaur on April 25th, 2008 4:55 pm

I think the google page rank is getting a thing of the past.

Trouble is google has all us webmasters paranoid, i think the safe thing to do is to have any external links with the no follow tag.

Thats just the way is seems to be going.
Masalaboard on April 28th, 2008 4:46 am

My blog also dropped from 5 to 3 but I’m pretty happy that traffic remains the same. I removed all my sold links and link exchange partners. Will see if this helps to receive back PR.
Xboard on April 28th, 2008 2:42 pm

How can we increase out page rank ?

Are the relevant backlinks the only elements that matters ?

Thank you!
Shane on April 29th, 2008 6:50 am

What is pagerank-algorithm of google
Store Friendly on April 30th, 2008 4:58 am

Wow, this madness has been the buzz of like every forum I visit!
AskTheAdmin | Karl Gechlik on May 1st, 2008 10:40 am

We went from a 6 to a 3 yesterday - it has not touched our google traffic though.

Thanks Google!
Cheap iPhone Deals - Free iPhone on May 2nd, 2008 5:57 pm

I think the next update is coming… hope so too.
dizi izle on May 2nd, 2008 9:38 pm

My two year old blog Table for Five went from PR4 to PR3. But, my six month old blog MomReviews went UP from PR0 to PR2, and my five month old blog MomCooks also went up from PR0 to PR2. I always thought that the age of the blog was one of the determining factors.
Teena Osorio on May 3rd, 2008 5:02 am

we are also puzzled with what happened to our google page rank. it decreased from 2 to 0 right now, but it is a good thing traffic still remains the same. we really have no idea what happened.
Gaurav on May 5th, 2008 4:18 am

hi guys

My blog got a PR 4 from PR 3 in the recent PR change.but all my search results have vanished. Earlier my blog was on first 5 positions on keywords like ‘c interview questions’. But not its found nowhere. Please suggest me the reason for this.
ersin on May 5th, 2008 3:53 pm

very intresting, google is so smart.
güvenlik on May 7th, 2008 9:38 am

Google must not stop link selling
Shane on May 7th, 2008 12:23 pm

Google page rank update I have gain page rank 0 to 2
Relocation on May 8th, 2008 11:48 am

My blog’s PR stayed as 2, hooray.
Mike on May 8th, 2008 2:17 pm

I run a research web site, and my page rank just dropped from 4 to 0!
firma rehberi on May 14th, 2008 11:08 am

thanks you.
video klip izle on May 14th, 2008 11:09 am

D:
proje on May 14th, 2008 6:20 pm

very hardworking company.
Mandy on May 15th, 2008 2:04 pm

My site http://www.jigsawconferences.co.uk for the travel page went down to, but i think its to do with competitors pointing dodgy links to my page and making to fall.

Anyway I have started again, let see what happens
Abhishek on May 19th, 2008 5:41 am

Hi! My PR remains at 1. Expecting for a increase the next time around.
firmalar on May 19th, 2008 10:01 am

thanks you..
Julian E. Ortiz on May 19th, 2008 3:53 pm

Whatever you do, you are always at the mercy of whoever calls the shots! Easy to see that what Google is after is decreasing the importance of PR through paid and exchange links, so that we rely more on their (Google’s) paid advertising.
派遣会社 on May 20th, 2008 5:51 am

I think people should not sell/buy links.
and the people who would don’t own an iPhone! Ha ha!
dizi izle on May 20th, 2008 9:12 am

Thank you man
izmir evden eve on May 20th, 2008 4:53 pm

thank
kauçuk on May 22nd, 2008 12:38 pm

paylaşım için teşekürler.
manisa evden eve on May 22nd, 2008 12:39 pm

thnaks
Keith on May 23rd, 2008 5:31 pm

Pagerank is computed based on many factors according to your website’s relevancy into many different topics on the web. Among these ‘different topics’ on the web, Google either, takes the average or gives the highest rank from any web topic, and the result is your pagerank score.

Since pagerank is based on many topics(CIRCA Technology, Topic-Sensitive Pagerank), Goggle probably updated their list of web topics, and as a result your website’s relevancy to these new web topics changed affecting your total Pagerank score.

Whats important is theres no drastic change in your ranking on google searches, if there is then you’re probably penalized for bad SEO tactics.

But if you used sound SEO practices and delivered useful contents in your site theres no need to worry much about these updates.
dizi izle on May 25th, 2008 12:15 pm

Thank you for documents.
Weis on May 26th, 2008 3:06 pm

Really informative article, it helped me a lot, had to come back a few times and readi it again. keep up the good work, thanks
jj on May 31st, 2008 11:50 am

It is useful
dizi izle on June 2nd, 2008 1:49 pm

ty
PC Sport Live on June 5th, 2008 5:39 pm

Getting page rank has been nothing short of a nightmare for me so far,
I’ve tried to be selective with my links as to where my mine are going but are still coming up short. Frustrating!
Webmasterworld01 on June 6th, 2008 2:14 am

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kelime yarışma on June 9th, 2008 4:57 am

Thanks man
amasra on June 9th, 2008 6:16 pm

Does G re-scaling the keywords also Im busted all of my keywords dropped!
evden eve taşıma on June 10th, 2008 2:45 pm

thanks youu.
webmaster sitesi on June 11th, 2008 4:08 am

so nice imformation
Alex Griffin on June 11th, 2008 1:14 pm

I think people should not sell/buy links. What about those who cant afford??
Peter Wolf on June 12th, 2008 4:45 pm

Fortunately, my search traffic has stayed steady.

I’m still going to clean out some paid links and try to be more “valuable” in Google’s eyes.
Karl Kiss on June 13th, 2008 8:46 am

Now I don’t feel as bad for my PageRank drop from 4 to 3.
cengiz özdemir on June 13th, 2008 8:58 pm

Darren - I think what could have happened is, they would have picked some xx number of blog, ran a random script which will lower the PR on random basis.. but this PR won’t affect google’s internal PR ranking… this PR is just to show the people and lower the value of PR…

I personally don’t think having a blog network or being part of blog network should affect the PR..I don’t see anything wrong in having a blog network and linking to all their blogs.. this is bit natural that if a person is having xx no. of things then he is going to list all together..

If blog network was the issue then it would have affected google’s own blog too..
Christian Solei on June 14th, 2008 6:43 am

Some datacenters will still show a 5, but there are many 3’s there, so its changing over time towards the 3.
hakan on June 15th, 2008 12:58 pm

thank you for your document
SEO Genius on June 17th, 2008 1:42 pm

Thanks for writing an article on this, i recently read the one on problogger about it however he did not go in to any depth.
Joern on June 18th, 2008 7:32 pm

That sites would be penalized for is an intriguing thought. I run a website on a very marginal topic (opera tenors) and probably since there aren’t too many sites of the same kind, the site was for a couple of years a PR5 site. It then dropped to pr4, curiously when I started with text link advertising, and now that I have a few text links (but not many), my PR all of a sudden dropped to 2. I have more or less the same amount of visitors as before, and good incoming links, so quite frankly I cannot understand why my page rank would drop radically. I maintain other sites with a lot less activity and traffic that are PR3 sites. Doesn’t make any sense to me.
Hypotheek voor Duitsland on June 19th, 2008 1:59 pm

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Sketch Online on June 19th, 2008 4:53 pm

But don’t you think the PR is now more realistic?
Amaan Goyal on June 23rd, 2008 12:17 pm

Page rank is based on various factors and being from the SEO industry we always emphasis on good SEO techniques rather than pagerank. Page rank may go up and down on a given update but if you follow the guidelines and have done your homework you should not expect a dramatic change in page rank.
webmaster on June 25th, 2008 11:34 am

Although most websites lost their PR after this update but some sites still maintains their PR what does it mean? Quality links or search engine friendly web design and development of sites.
metropolismom on June 27th, 2008 9:47 am

Hi,

I am a new blogger and PR is very important to me. I want to inject ads on my new blog. Can someone answer me if I choose Chitika or Cliksor over google adsense, will my PR be affected?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Metropolismom
Unplugged on June 29th, 2008 5:57 am

It is funny to see, how many people discuss, how the google pr algorithm can looks like
galatasaray resimleri on June 30th, 2008 7:38 pm

thanks som uch
J&K Lowline Cattle on July 1st, 2008 3:05 am

Seems like the blogs PR’s were hit the hardest.

I’d like to boost my PR higher than what it is. Working on that right now.

Thanks.
Talent Search Engine on July 1st, 2008 6:14 am

Thank you

Talents Search Engine
http://www.talentse.com
nakliyat on July 3rd, 2008 12:44 pm

well .. what effects site ranking in google ?? if pagerank doesnt work anymore ..
what is the next

thnks
Okey Oyna on July 4th, 2008 7:30 pm

thnx. great!.

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